10 yrs. Two partners (one 32, one 50), certified organic vegetable seed crops, hay, cover crops, fallow, 3 acres in seed crops, 17 in hay, 5 in trees, wish to set up permaculture - 25 acres in hay in 2005 after conventional ag for 4 seasons of soya to stop spring erosion; work on contour, raised beds for drainage, compost, sheep manure, fall cover crops, timing is critical, spring tillage timing critical. Soil blows away as so few trees. Have planted hedge rows on property lines.